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Lengthy Twins Games Test Interest

Posted on May 20, 2013May 20, 2013 by David Shama

 

I am back in a familiar spring habit regarding the Twins who after a laborious day at Target Field yesterday have now lost five consecutive games.  The first several games of the season I am locked in for all nine innings but by this time in May my interest borders on apathy.

Here’s the problem: not only are many games too dang long, but the Twins don’t win enough games and hit enough home runs (next to last in AL).  Translation: if the action isn’t compelling, then a three to four hour time commitment is often too much for me.

Major League Baseball knows despite the solid popularity of its sport, lengthy games are a concern.  Yeah, other entertainment like football and basketball have increased dramatically in game times over the years but baseball is more problematic because it’s a very deliberate endeavor and the season is the longest of any in American sports.

In the 1970s the average MLB game was two hours and 30 minutes, according to a July 27 story last year by Bleacherreport.com.  The article said since 2007 the average has not fallen below two hours and 50 minutes.  Twins games dating back to May 11 of this year have clocked in at 2:45, 2:55, 2:51, 2:44, 3:26, 3:24, 3:53 and yesterday’s 3:15 which was 6:15 if you count a three hour rain delay.

Now compare that with the game times for the 1965 World Series between the Twins and Dodgers.  Four of those seven games were played in less than two hours and 16 minutes.  The longest was two hours and 34 minutes.

Patrick Klinger was vice president of marketing for the Twins through last season and was asked about baseball’s slowdown.  “Twins games used to start at 8 o’clock on week nights back in the 60s.  Even when I was an intern with the Twins back in 1986, games started at 7:35.  Now they start at 7.  They take so long.”

What happened?  Innings breaks are longer to allow more TV commercials to pitch products and services, but the game has changed, too.  Years ago starting pitchers often finished the game, working all nine innings.  Now baseball has become a parade of pitchers.  Managers even change pitchers more than once in the same inning.  Add to that meetings at the mound between the pitching coach, pitcher, catcher and infielders.

Pitchers also work at various paces, including slow and slower while hitters can be cautious about looking over the pitches thrown at them.  Think about Joe Mauer who seldom swings at the first pitch.  Hitters often review five or more pitches before the ball goes into play.

MLB doesn’t want games played at a leisurely pace.  Umpires are instructed to do what they can to make sure games are played efficiently.  MLB obviously knows games lasting beyond three hours are a time commitment problem for fans including those attending a week night game.  And it’s more than a three hour commitment because fans sometimes arrive an hour or so before the game and travel time has to be added in as well.

“What we wanted to do (at Twins games) was to provide the very best entertainment experience possible,” Klinger said.  “We wanted people coming back often.  If there was a long game (that) kind of slogged along I am not sure that provided the best entertainment experience.  Are those people going to be as likely to return?”

Klinger said more likely to bring back the fans is a “good, crisp well played game” lasting about two hours and 30 minutes.  He suggested that template is likely to have fans saying, “You know what?  That was a lot of fun.  Let’s go back next week.”

Klinger wrote in an e-mail that technology at the ballpark has enhanced the entertainment experience and during long games made the trip to the stadium more fun for fans.  “Technology…now allows for huge video replay boards and social media opportunities inside the ballpark.  In addition, there is much greater attention being paid to pregame ceremonies, between innings entertainment and music.  It’s all designed to improve the in-ballpark experience by keeping fans engaged when the action slows.”

Klinger said complaints from fans about the length of games weren’t that numerous when he was with the Twins.  “We didn’t get a lot but it was something we were always concerned about because this is a society now that wants instant gratification,” Klinger said.  “Baseball is a deliberate game, and people’s attention spans aren’t maybe what they once were.  Too many other distractions.  We wanted to keep the game moving along. … Keep them (fans) interested and not looking at their cell phones, doing other things.”

Of course it’s not just the fans who attend games that baseball wants to attract.  Audience development means attracting new followers and turning casual followers into passionate fans.  “If there were ways to move it along, make it a little bit more dynamic, I think we’d pick up some fans,” Klinger said. “Too many people just sit in the stands (not engaged), or they try to watch a game on television and they think that it’s just too deliberate, too slow for them.”

Even Klinger, still a baseball fan after leaving the Twins and starting his own consulting company, knows his baseball focus is sometimes challenged.  “I find myself, frankly, sometimes sitting on my sofa flipping channels.  It’s so easy now with the remote control in your hands and a hundred stations or more on your television. There’s a break in the action, or if things are just deliberate, it’s so easy to hit a button and you’re watching something else.

“To flip to something else and then maybe flip back.  So staying focused for three, three and one-half hours on a game I think is a little bit harder than it used to be.    There are just too many options.”

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Retractable Roof Not Worth the Fuss

Posted on May 14, 2013May 14, 2013 by David Shama

  

The new Vikings stadium won’t have a retractable roof.  So what?  Get over it.

About one-third of the world’s population subsists on $2 per day, according to last Sunday TV’s 60 Minutes.  Don’t whine about not being able to accommodate a retractable roof in the $975 million budget.  That’s plenty of money to spend without adding on the retractable roof for another $25 to $50 million.

The design announced on Monday night detailed how part of the roof and huge pivoting doors will allow light into the building, providing the feeling of that long desired outdoor experience.  The stadium will have seven levels, seat 65,000 fans for Vikings games, provide close proximity to the field and be able to accommodate more types of events than any facility in the world, according to venue promoters.

Pro football is a spectacle well suited to indoor accommodations.  It’s a made for TV sport and NFL stadiums are giant TV studios.  Vikings fans will be cozy inside their new stadium with views of the downtown skyline and giant video boards to entertain themselves.  The purple-dressed throngs will be able to walk to the stadium in controlled climate comfort because of the skyway system linking to the facility.

From Detroit to Houston, the NFL has embraced the indoor football experience in multiple cities.  In Detroit the Lions play in a fixed roof facility and in Houston the Texans hardly ever play under blue sky despite having a retractable roof, preferring a climate controlled environment.

Instead of complaining about the absence of the roof, celebrate that this city and state has decided to build a state-of-the-art facility that will compare favorably to any in the world. This will be no built-on-the-cheap stadium like the Metrodome, a facility where tightwad politicians and administrators thought about not using air conditioning to save money.

Even when it was new, the dome with its Teflon coated roof, never won a beauty contest.  Shoulder pads are optional in the overcrowded concourses.  Visiting the restrooms is usually a tradeoff in missed game time.  Worst of all, a roof collapse always seemed a possibility.

The Metrodome did ensure the presence of the Twins and Vikings in Minnesota for more than 30 years.  In the 1970s both franchises wanted the downtown dome rather play in outdoor Met Stadium.  The Vikings particularly pushed hard for a dome.  Historians will remember there once were plans for the Twins to stay in Bloomington while the Vikings would move into a football only covered facility on the west side of downtown.  A parking ramp was to surround the exterior and daily revenues would help pay for the stadium.

The design detailed by HKS Sports on Monday night gave confidence to the notion that this new endeavor will be a world-class stadium.  There’s been a history here of building stadiums without a commitment to quality but that won’t be true of the Vikings’ stadium.  Both Met Stadium and the Metrodome were built with “what can we get by with approaches.”  TCF Bank Stadium and Target Field broke with that sorry mantra and the Vikings stadium looks like it will go a step higher.

The new stadium will host 10 or more Vikings games per year but it will also be a giant indoor park hosting high school and college baseball, saving the spring season in some years here in our bizarre climate.  There will be glamorous and not so glitzy uses of the facility ranging from Final Fours to neighborhood rollerblading, from rock concerts to conventions.  Yes, we might even see a bowl game here and certainly the stadium will host the Prep Bowl just like the Metrodome has for all these years.

A few years ago speculation was the Vikings were headed to Los Angeles.  But the Vikings will be playing in a new stadium in Minneapolis in 2016 and right now LA is still trying to figure out how to finance a pro football facility.  Not only that but LA’s baseball and college football teams play in old stadiums while here in Minneapolis our teams are in new facilities.

Maybe Hollywood is overrated.   Maybe like a retractable roof.

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‘Fate’ for Retractable Roof 60 Days Away

Posted on February 22, 2013February 22, 2013 by David Shama

 

Vikings’ stadium executive Lester Bagley told Sports Headliners he expects to know this spring if the new $975 million downtown stadium that will be home to the local NFL team will have a retractable roof, or fixed roof.  “In the next 60 days we should know the fate of a retractable feature,” he said.

Knowledgeable observers are pessimistic that the state-mandated $975 million budget is large enough to pay for a retractable roof, likely to cost $25 million to $50 million.  But Bagley doesn’t describe the chances of a retractable roof as a “long shot.”

The Vikings, the Minnesota Sports Facilities Authority, the architects (HKS) and the construction management firm (Mortenson Construction) are considering options to provide enhanced amenities in the new facility scheduled to open in 2016.  Those options include not only a retractable roof, but a window opening to the skyline and a moveable wall providing proximity to the game day outdoor plaza.  “We think it’s a pretty decent opportunity for the retractable feature (of some kind),” Bagley said.

While neither the Vikings, state or city of Minneapolis are expected to commit any more money to the stadium budget, Bagley is already encouraged by cost savings for the project. “It (a retractable feature) is going to be a budget issue but we’ve been able to have an architect and builder (Mortenson) come in under budget,” Bagley said.

The expertise of HKS and Mortenson is also expected to maximize the best outcome for a retractable feature.  HKS was the architect for the acclaimed football stadiums in Dallas and Indianapolis that have multiple retractable features including roofs.  Mortenson built Target Field and TCF Bank Stadium in Minneapolis.

Bagley didn’t identify the amount of the cost savings with HKS and Mortenson but it’s been reported the HKS fee will be $34 million and the Mortenson fee $12.5 million with incentives that could reach $15 million.

Bagley said the Metrodome will be demolished on February 1, 2014.  Ground for the new stadium—to be located adjacent to the Metrodome—is expected to be broken this September or October.

The 2013 season will the Vikings last at the dome, and then the team will play at TCF Bank Stadium in 2014 and 2015.  The Vikings and University of Minnesota are expected to have an agreement finalized within about 30 days, according to Bagley.

Sports Headliners believes the Vikings will pay in excess of $2.5 million per year to use TFC Bank Stadium.  In addition, the Vikings will pay for costs to make the stadium acceptable for them.  This includes paying for a new field with heating coils under the artificial turf, and then replacing that turf after the 2015 season.  TCF Bank Stadium was built for fall football but Bagley said the Vikings need the facility to be suitable for the team and its fans through January.

Stadium capacity for Gophers games is 50,805 but will be expanded to nearly 53,000 by the addition of temporary seating in TCF Bank Stadium’s west end, according to Bagley.  That figure was targeted to accommodate Vikings’ total season ticket holders.

The Gophers’ baseball program and other amateur baseball teams in the state have annually played games in the Metrodome when the weather otherwise forces them to be in warmer states.  Leaders of those programs have been concerned about an initial field design for the new stadium that will have a baseball foul line of less than 300 feet.  The Vikings are determined to build a fan-friendly football stadium that includes seats with close proximity to the field.

Bagley said design work regarding the issue is now on “option six” and he’s hopeful a solution will be finalized within a week or so.  “I don’t know exactly what the foul line dimensions will be but they should accommodate the baseball community,” he said. 

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